the whole way through, all the way through (2025)

HSS

Senior Member

Sendai, Japan

Standard Japanese, Sendaian Japanese

  • Dec 30, 2014
  • #1

Hi, I just wonder if you could change 'the whole way through' to 'all the way through' to still mean the same. I perceive a slight difference but I can't tell what it is in words.

Dear Enos,

I was very thrilled yesterday as you and the rest of the Cardinals overpowered the overrated Boston Red Sox. I am thoroughly convinced that it was your terrific speed and great throwing arm that was the winning margin.
I am looking forward to next year when I can see you in action again. I hope you have another great year. It was the best World Series I have ever listened to. I was for the Cardinals the whole way through and was confident you would win.
(Chicago Tribune)

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    Wordnip

    Senior Member

    Western Australia

    British English

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #2

    "I was for the Cardinals the whole way through and was confident you would win." is, I think, a common, idiomatic, way of expressing this.

    "I was for the Cardinals all the way through and was confident you would win." means the same but is not a such a commonly used expression. I think that this is the only reason why it sounds 'odd'.

    "I slept all the way through the film." is, perhaps, a more common use than "I slept the whole way through the film." I cannot express what the difference is except in terms of common usage.

    perpend

    Banned

    American English

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #3

    I agree with wordnip that "the whole way through" is wholly idiomatic in this case. the whole way through, all the way through (3)

    "all the way through" has different connotations.

    HSS

    Senior Member

    Sendai, Japan

    Standard Japanese, Sendaian Japanese

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #4

    Wordnip said:

    "I was for the Cardinals the whole way through and was confident you would win." is, I think, a common, idiomatic, way of expressing this.

    "I was for the Cardinals all the way through and was confident you would win." means the same but is not a such a commonly used expression. I think that this is the only reason why it sounds 'odd'.

    "I slept all the way through the film." is, perhaps, a more common use than "I slept the whole way through the film." I cannot express what the difference is except in terms of common usage.

    Reading your examples, my guts are now telling me 'the whole way through' would mean you did some action (cheering in my example) at every point along the way, but 'all the way through' wouldn't convey just as much of it. What do you think?

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    Wordnip

    Senior Member

    Western Australia

    British English

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #5

    HSS said:

    Reading your examples, my guts are now telling me 'the whole way through' would mean you did some action (cheering in my example) at every point along the way, but 'all the way through' wouldn't convey just as much of it. What do you think?

    "We cheered the whole way through" and "We cheered all the way through" mean the same. I cannot detect any subtle difference. Neither need mean literally that your cheering was continual or continuous; it may have been frequent but intermittent. There are limits for even the most enthusiastic supporters!

    HSS

    Senior Member

    Sendai, Japan

    Standard Japanese, Sendaian Japanese

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #6

    I don't know how to put it, but with 'the whole way through' you are looking at the whole stage or process at once, but with 'all the way through' you are looking toward the end through the process???

    HSS

    Senior Member

    Sendai, Japan

    Standard Japanese, Sendaian Japanese

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #7

    If I prepare for the day, I'll do it all the way through. I'll make every possible preparation it needs.the whole way through, all the way through (7)
    If I prepare for the day, I'll do it the whole way through. I'll make every possible preparation it needs.the whole way through, all the way through (8)

    I've been thinking. Doesn't 'all the way through' imply you do something until you do it to the end?

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    Wordnip

    Senior Member

    Western Australia

    British English

    • Dec 30, 2014
    • #8

    HSS said:

    If I prepare for the day, I'll do it all the way through. I'll make every possible preparation it needs.the whole way through, all the way through (9)
    If I prepare for the day, I'll do it the whole way through. I'll make every possible preparation it needs.the whole way through, all the way through (10)

    I've been thinking. Doesn't 'all the way through' imply you do something until you do it to the end?

    Actually, we would say neither sentence. Anyway, you are moving from a abstract idea, that of supporting a team ("I was for ...) to physical processes.

    Your new sentence is more likely to be expressed, "If I prepare for the day, I'll do it thoroughly."

    Neitzel553

    Member

    Paakantyi

    • Oct 26, 2018
    • #9

    It seems to me the basic distinction between all the way and the whole way somewhere is the former emphasizes/ indicates distance, while the latter duration (in other words, the former- the spatial dimension, while the latter the temporal one).
    For instance, you couldn't say "I live the whole way in the mountains" ( but 'all the way' - emphasizing the distance).
    Or "what are you doing all the way here in the back by yourself?" (so far from the rest of us)
    "I was so upset, I cried the whole way home" (the ride back home took half an hour and I cried the whole time).

    Using "run" for instance.
    1. We ran all the way there. ("there" was 10 kilometers from "here", and we ran all that way)
    2. We ran the whole way there. (The others were really tired but we were so full of energy that we just kept running the whole time. Running a few hundred meters , waiting for the others to catch up, running some again. Even so it doesn't really work, because run by definition involves movement, covering ground, and so distance, and therefore works better with the former case. the opposite is true for, say, sing, which involves time [the song, the sounds "last", they have a temporal component. You sing for a few seconds,a minute, half an hour etc.] So you can say the children were so excited they sang the whole way there. [It doesn't really work with "all the way" though. they sang all the way there? NO. "They were sitting all the way over there by the fence". Or" they had to trek fifteen miles, humping a 10-kilogram load all the way through the desert."]

    They came all the way over here for nothing.
    They made jokes the whole way here about how they'll have come (all the way here) for nothing.

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